GOPer Bill Clinton Crying into a Hankie at the Vatican
Marcythewhore says: Besides noticing that Republican former Democrat President Bill Clinton doesn’t hang around with Democrats anymore……okay, okay…..we all know that John Kerry was a Republican married to a billionaire running as a Democrat to earn his keep at home. When you are married to a billionaire you just don’t need a full time job anymore. Going to the senate office twice a week leaves plenty of time for wind surfing. How is a president going to wind surf with all those secret service agents hanging on to Kerry’s board.
Anyway, we all noticed that Bill Clinton and the Bush brothers (or are they father and son with another son lurking in the wings or whatever)….we all noticed all those at the Vatican weeping into hankies on the perimeter of the Dead Pope’s body.
And we all know that after four days out in the open air even the Pope starts to stink a little, and those hankies were perfume laced, and all the Catholic mumbo-jumbo about relic worship is no good without Chanel hankies on hand. I mean, come on, you aren’t going to just dip your hankie in the Holy Water and think that you can get through the entire dirge without noticing that maybe this thing has gone on far too Terri Schiavo-like too long.
I mean, what were they using when they dug up Pope John XIII’s body after all those years underground?
I just hope that once the Brown Shirt Christians get Jerry Falwell into the ground that somebody doesn’t start thinking about digging his ass up to go making like some relic worshipping fetish so that the Brown Shirts can get some Vatican like scheme going in Nashville, Tennessee. Or some Night of the Living Dead like scenario.
Okay, Marcy (me) admits to not knowing everything there is to know about sainthood and relic worship and all. I can barely keep up with that snake lasso handling the Brown Shirt Christians use to make themselves gaudy. But Marcy (me) has got this bet going.
The Cardinals sure as hell aren’t going to pick a second non-Italian to be El Papa the Godfather Extreme.
Once they get the Polish guy into the ground it’s business back to normal like it’s been for millenniums already.
And you Brown Shirt Christians waving your copperhead snakes in the air can go back to being envious of the richest little two square miles on earth, cause you know the Vatican has nuclear warheads under the Basilica….and you Brown Shirts got nothing more potent than Charlton Heston with his cold dead hands around a flintlock rifle at an NRA rally……………marcythewhore
Anyway, we all noticed that Bill Clinton and the Bush brothers (or are they father and son with another son lurking in the wings or whatever)….we all noticed all those at the Vatican weeping into hankies on the perimeter of the Dead Pope’s body.
And we all know that after four days out in the open air even the Pope starts to stink a little, and those hankies were perfume laced, and all the Catholic mumbo-jumbo about relic worship is no good without Chanel hankies on hand. I mean, come on, you aren’t going to just dip your hankie in the Holy Water and think that you can get through the entire dirge without noticing that maybe this thing has gone on far too Terri Schiavo-like too long.
I mean, what were they using when they dug up Pope John XIII’s body after all those years underground?
I just hope that once the Brown Shirt Christians get Jerry Falwell into the ground that somebody doesn’t start thinking about digging his ass up to go making like some relic worshipping fetish so that the Brown Shirts can get some Vatican like scheme going in Nashville, Tennessee. Or some Night of the Living Dead like scenario.
Okay, Marcy (me) admits to not knowing everything there is to know about sainthood and relic worship and all. I can barely keep up with that snake lasso handling the Brown Shirt Christians use to make themselves gaudy. But Marcy (me) has got this bet going.
The Cardinals sure as hell aren’t going to pick a second non-Italian to be El Papa the Godfather Extreme.
Once they get the Polish guy into the ground it’s business back to normal like it’s been for millenniums already.
And you Brown Shirt Christians waving your copperhead snakes in the air can go back to being envious of the richest little two square miles on earth, cause you know the Vatican has nuclear warheads under the Basilica….and you Brown Shirts got nothing more potent than Charlton Heston with his cold dead hands around a flintlock rifle at an NRA rally……………marcythewhore
posted by marcythewhore at 10:44 AM
8 Comments:
aaah, marcy, you are truly a poet.
hey, help me out here: can you give us a checklist or something detailing what it takes to be a brown shirt christian? is it something specific, like a set of behavioural and personality characteristics and affiliations or is it a bit elusive- more of a spiritual blood type?
up here in canada we have no such expression (to my knowledge anyway)...
by the way, thanks for the tips on pet ownership. LOL
You don't have Brown Shirt Christians in Canada, huh.
Let me think.
Okay, think of the Canadian Mounted Police in Brown uniforms..........
.....marcythewhore
.........He looked out over the delegates, many of whom had actually arrived wearing the brown shirts of the Nazi SA............
Barnett, Victoria
FOR THE SOUL OF THE PEOPLE - Protestant Protest against Hitler.
New York 1992, Oxford, First US edition, hard bound in dut jacket, 6x9, FINE/FINE CONDITION, x, 358 pages, illus, notes, bibliog, index. IN September 1933, Ludwig Miller, Nazi party member and newly elected Reich Bishop, stood before his fellow German Protestants at the infamous Wittenberg synod. He looked out over the delegates, many of whom had actually arrived wearing the brown shirts of the Nazi SA. "The political church struggle is over," he announced. "The struggle for the soul of the people now begins." For the Soul of the People portrays the dramatic struggle between Nazism and the Confessing Church. When storm troopers started showing up at church services and the Nazis began issuing orders to the German Protestant Church, this group of outraged Christians sought to establish a church untainted by Nazi ideology. As the conflict progressed, Confessing Church members were spied on and harassed by the Gestapo. Martin Niemöller, one of the Church's most outspoken leaders, was sent to Dachau. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, one of its seminal figures, was executed in April 1945 for his involvement in the plot to kill Hitler. For this remarkable book, Victoria Barnett interviewed more than sixty Germans who were active in the Confessing Church, asking them to reflect on their personal experiences under Hitler and how they see themselves, morally and politically, today. She quotes liberally from their frank, unvarnished testimony, using rich historical and archival material to frame their stories. What emerges is no simple allegory of good triumphing over evil, as Barnett discovers that the Church's resistance was neither unqualified nor unanimous.
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The American Condition
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To poison the earth is a good thing that will help bring back Jesus. However, a mega war in the Mid-east is the only way to ensure his return, according to these Christian brown Shirt types.
the Rapture, which could happen any second now, but certainly within the next 40 years, will instantly sweep all the "saved" Americans (perhaps one-half the population) to heaven, leaving the United States as "a Third World country" with the European Union becoming the revived Roman Empire.
I suppose that needles will suddenly enlarge, to let the camels through the eye and the wealthy into heaven. In the new American version of Christianity, the rich folks are sitting in the luxury class on the rapture train to heaven.
This article, Rapture Awaits in the Florida Panhandle, is by Tom Harpur, a leading Canadian theologian. http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/021305I.shtml
"We honest to goodness felt like we had fallen through a time warp into a Nazi brown-shirt meeting," Martin said.
Scripps-Howard News Service
Joan Lowey
THE GOP'S RELIGIOUS WAR
Until last spring, Jo Martin was a relatively non?political Houston housewife. Today she's on the front lines of a religious war that has fractured the Republican Party. Martin, a 52-year-old mother of three, and her husband David, a stockbroker, are lifelong Republicans but hadn't been active in party politics for many years until they happened to attend a local GOP meeting last spring. They were appalled by what they found.
The part apparatus had been taken over by religious activists intent on bringing "biblical principles" to government: outlawing abortion, ostracizing homosexuals and teaching creationism in pub?lic schools, among other things.
"We honest to goodness felt like we had fallen through a time warp into a Nazi brown-shirt meeting," Martin said.
Now Martin has an office in her husband's brokerage firm where she spends her days researching and publicizing the political agenda of the Religious Right.
"I would never had pictured myself getting involved in some?thing like this," said Martin, an Episcopalian and fifth-generation Texan.
In cities and towns across the country, the precinct-by-precinct battle for control of the GOP between mainstream Republicans and conservative Christian activists is going full-tilt.
Moderates who were awakened by the Republican National Convention in August to the gains within the party by the Religious Right have begun to organize and fight back. But they have a long way to go.
Working at the grassroots, fundamentalist activists have either gained control or made sizable inroads into state party organization in Alaska, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Kansas, Louisiana, Minnesota, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, Or?egon, Washington and Virginia.
A loosely affiliated network of Religious Right organizations led by televangelist Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition has also mobilized millions of evangelical voters across the country. While they failed to re-elect President Bush, those voters helped to elect hundreds of religious activists and Republicans sympathetic to their conservative social agenda to school boards, city councils, state legislatures and Congress.
Now Christian Right activists are laying plans to expand their influence within the party and to target off-year election contests, particularly gubernatorial and state legislative races in New Jersey and Virginia this year.
"We're going to be a significant force at the grass roots of American politics for the foreseeable future," predicted Christian Coalition executive director Ralph Reed.
For most evangelical activists, promoting a conservative social agenda is far more important than furthering the Republican Party. They generally believe that the United States is a "Christian nation" favored by God, but they're disturbed by many societal trends - rising crime, rampant teenage pregnancy, abortion, the feminist movement and growing acceptance of homosexuals, among others.
These trends, they believe, are attributable to Americans stray?ing from their "Christian heritage." If they can elect like-minded Christian conservatives to office, then government would reflect religious values and these trends would begin to reverse, they argue.
"The agenda this voting bloc is interested in is not some sort of bizarre agenda," said Gary Bauer, president of the Family Research Council, a Religious Right organization. "Most Americans don't want gays to be allowed to marry or adopt children. Most Americans are troubled by the increasing amount of sex and violence on TV and in the movies. Most Americans want some restrictions on abortion."
The battlelines between religious activists and mainstream Republicans already have been drawn. Among the recent develop?ments: Oregon state GOP chairman Craig Berkman has proposed joining Ross Perot's supporters to set up a separate, independent state Republican party apart from the anti-abortion, anti-homo?sexual forces that now dominate the state party.
Meanwhile, the Oregon Citizens Alliance, the state's leading Christian Right group, plans to try again in 1994 to pass an anti?homosexual law. A referendum opposing homosexuality pushed by the alliance failed in 1992, but the next attempt will be modeled after a more softly worded referendum approved by Colorado voters last year.
Mainstream Republicans in Houston recently formed a sepa?rate party committee to complete with the regular GOP organization when the Harris County Republican chairwoman was forced out of office by religious activists.
The new county chairman, Dr. Steven Hotze, is a born-again activist who argues that the survival of the United States hinges on restoring "its Christian heritage" and limiting government "to its God-ordained role of providing justice based upon God's laws, restraining wickedness, punishing evildoers, and protecting the life, liberty and property of law-abiding citizens."
More than a dozen county meetings to elect party officers in Washington state erupted into shouting matches in recent weeks as mainstream Republicans and religious activists battled for control. Last summer, the GOP state convention under the control of reli? gious activists passed a party platform denouncing witchcraft and yoga, among other subjects.
In Minnesota, the state GOP's former executive director caused a stir with a memo recommending that the party eliminate its practice of endorsing candidates through state conventions, which are easily controlled by a small number of dedicated activists. This would diminish the growing power of evangelical activists, who had been pressuring the Republicans attending precinct caucuses to state if and when they had been born again.
Moderates in Johnson County, Kan., a suburb of Kansas City, lost out two months ago when members of a conservative, anti?abortion faction were elected to three of the four top local Republican Party posts.
Groups have sprung up in Colorado Springs, San Diego, Virginia Beach and elsewhere to research and publicize the Reli?gious Right's activities.
Several leading GOP moderates - including Rep. Tom Campbell of California, retiring Sen. Warren Rudman of New Hampshire, and Sens. Nancy Kassenbaum of Kansas, Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and John Chafee of Rhode Island - recently announced the formation of the Republican Majority Coalition, a national organization "to take our party back" from the Religious Right.
"We believe issues such as abortion, mandatory school prayer, homosexuality, the teaching of creationism and other similar ques-. tions recently inserted into the political context should instead be left to the conscience of individuals," said the coalition's statement of purpose.
Among the group's goals are to identify moderates in precincts across the country, recruit and endorse like-minded candidates and soften the GOP platform in 1996, including making it neutral on the abortion issue.
The 1992 GOP platform called for an across-the-board ban on abortion, said laws should reflect a "faith in God," promoted prayer in school, opposed homosexuals marrying or adopting children and favored a voucher system that would give parents public funds to send their children to private schools, including religious schools.
"We don't believe issues of personal morality ought to be tests for being a Republican," Campbell said.
Rep. Rod Chandler (R-Wash.), a moderate who lost the Senate race in Washington to Democrat Patty Murray last year, said he plans to form a similar organization in his state. "If you have one narrow faction controlling a party the way we did in our state this year, you are doomed," Chandler said.
It's preferable to find a way to keep the Christian activists within the party, Chandler said, "but if they insist on attempting to control it themselves, at that point ... it becomes a fight to the finish."
The Christian Coalition's Reed said the actions of mainstream party members like the Republican Majority Coalition border on "anti-Christian bias."
"We hope they don't want to exclude Christians," Reed said.
"No one should be excluded from participation in the civic process based on their faith."
Reed also warned that the party needs Christian activists, who have become its most loyal voting bloc and provide many of its most dedicated grass roots volunteers. "Without pro-family conserva?tives, the big tent will become a pup tent," he said.
Many Republican strategists agree. "If they were successful in driving the Religious Right out, we wouldn't be successful in winning another election in this country," GOP consultant Eddie Mahe said.
"You can't throw out a third of your base vote and win," Mahe said. "They are us and we are them."
- Joan Lowy
Reprinted with permission of Scripps-Howard News Service
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when did you post this lengthy comment? sorry i missed it until today. i now see the brown shirt connection...
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"so ya thought ya might like to go to the show
to feel the warm thrill of confusion- that space cadet glow
i've got some bad news for you, sunshine
pink isn't well- he stayed back at the hotel
and they sent us along as a surrogate band
we're gonna find out where you fans really stand...
are there any queers in the theatre tonight?
get them up against the wall
there's one in the spotlight- he don't look right to me
get him up against the wall
that one looks jewish and that one's a coon
who let all this riff raff into the room?
there's one smoking a joint
and another with spots
if i had my way i'd have all of you shot."
(waters, 1979)
it is sad that in alan parker's visual version of 'pink floyd the wall', this song feels more like a traditional religious gathering than a hate rally.
kinda creepy that scouts wear brown shirts...
oh gosh! i have a brown shirt in my own closet- but i've never worn it... does that count?
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i read a book called 'the hidden encyclical of pius XI' which, contrary to some of the reviewers below, i found to be a rather interesting read. certainly worth considering for spin.
From Amazon.com
The Hidden Encyclical of Pius XI by Georges Passelecq and Bernard Suchecky is about "a bungled effort at compassion"--one of the most important Catholic documents of the 20th century, which was intended to denounce Hitler's anti-Semitism but was never completed. The reasons for this document's commission and suppression, as described by Passelecq and Suchecky, compose a scandalous indictment of Italian church-and-state relations. When Pius XI accepted a stark separation of church and state in the 1930s, he effectively undermined Catholic political groups, an act which eased the rise of European dictators and led to World War II. The Hidden Encyclical is suitably critical of Pius without lapsing into Vatican bashing. It's a sober, rueful, and straightforward story about the tragic cost of exalting Truth over love. --Michael Joseph Gross
From Library Journal
In June 1938, three Jesuit priests drafted a work that might or might not have changed European history. Humani Generis Unitas (The Unity of the Human Race) was Pope Pius XI's encyclical to address the encroaching modernity of Fascist Italy and the rising tide of national racism. Unfortunately, Pius's death the next year ended whatever life this manuscript had.
Reviewer: A customer from Wellington NZ
The book has some interesting threads from an historical point of view however after having read through the "super sleuth" story in the lead half of the book, I was somewhat disappointed by the text of the letter itself. It was too academic in my mind and less papal. But back to the detective work - ultimately I found the book to be overly ambitious (the subject doesn't warrent it) and somewhat arrogant as if the encyclical itself is above the Church and must be taken to be heavenly. In the end the work did not receive papal blessing nor was it even published at the appropriate time to evoke the appropriate ecclesial mood amidst a public rally
Reviewer: Amanda McCoy
This is an interesting tale of an encyclical that never saw the light of day, especially because it was an encyclical against racism clearly aimed at Hitler. But the authors misintepret the document's import.
They act as if this draft encyclical would have been the first time the Church denounced the Third Reich's anti-Semitism. In fact, Pius XI had solemnly condemned it in the encyclical Mit Brennender Sorge (1937), written in German and read from the pulpit of every German church. He also denounced it in several addresses to the College of Cardinals.
They also miss the fact that Pius XII incorporated large chunks of this encyclical into the first encyclical he published after being elected pope in 1939. As Pierre Blet shows in his fine work on the Vatican archives, Pius XII continued to hammer home the Church's opposition to anti-Semitism in many cables to papal ambassadors, authorizing them to save Jewish lives through Vatican passports, false baptismal certificates, and the granting of sanctuary in church buidlings.
The "hidden encyclical" only confirms the public words and actions of Popes Pius XI and XII against racism, especially in its Nazi guise. Oddly, however, the authors twist this evidence into something suggesting just the opposite.
Reviewer: Kermit from Boston, MA
The concept of this book was admirable and the text of the encyclical is intriguing but a lot of the narrative is dull and repetitive. Its a good piece of information that could have been presented in a more readable manner. --.
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